CAMPAIGN 2012

Debate Watch: Romney v. Perry

Updated: September 23, 2011 | 10:55 a.m.
September 22, 2011 | 3:57 p.m.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (left) and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney listen to fellow Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, former governor of Utah (right), during the Fox News/Google GOP Debate at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, Fla. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Meet the Debaters

Michele Bachmann

Michele Bachmann

The Minnesota congresswoman stumbled again last week when she suggested that vaccines, such as the one Rick Perry mandated administering in Texas, can cause mental retardation. With her poll numbers slipping, the tea party favorite will need to assert herself tonight to prove she’s still a viable candidate.

Herman Cain

Herman Cain

The former CEO of Godfather's Pizza and former host of a conservative radio talk show is a long shot, but his fiery stage presence has won him points among evangelicals and tea party adherents. Of late, he's touted a plan to levy 9 percent corporate, personal, and sales taxes. 

Newt Gingrich

Newt Gingrich

After a rocky start, including an en masse departure by his senior staffers, the former House speaker is struggling to stay relevant. Look for more attacks on the media, Gingrich’s favorite – and usually only – punching bag during these debates.

John Huntsman

Jon Huntsman

The former Utah governor, who served most recently as President Obama’s ambassador to China, is still struggling to break out of the pack, and a series of strange comments during last week's debate didn't help his cause. Still, a poll released this week shows him finally gaining ground in the key state of New Hampshire.

Gary Johnson

Gary Johnson

The ex-New Mexico governor and libertarian favorite returns to the debate stage after crossing the minimum threshold for support in national polls. His biggest challenge might be fighting his eight opponents for air time, a problem he encountered the last time he debated in May. 

Ron Paul

Ron Paul

The Texas congressman and repeat presidential contender has an ardent base of supporters, and his outspoken libertarianism suddenly seems more mainstream. Even if he remains a long shot, many national polls show him trailing only Romney and Perry. 

Rick Perry

Rick Perry

The Texas governor rode a wave of momentum to the top of the polls, but his honeymoon is definitely over. He's become the top target of his Republican rivals on hot button issues ranging from Social Security to immigration to the vaccine mandate. After two subpar debates, he'll need to improve on Thursday.

Mitt Romney

Mitt Romney

The former Massachusetts governor has become Perry's chief critic during the last two debates, challenging the Texas governor to defend his controversial statements about Social Security. Romney's no longer the front-runner, but he's proven during the last two debates that he's more than Perry's match on stage.  

Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum

The former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania has tried hard to gain traction with voters, emphasizing his foreign-policy, fiscal, and -- above all -- social-conservative credentials. Even if he lags well behind in polls, his fiery personality and 16 years in Congress serves him well in debates.

Perry’s competitive jab may have been intended as a friendly one, but his emphasis on Texas’s continued success at the expense of other states, underscores concerns by some of his advisers that the governor’s appeal could be circumscribed by his state's border.

Romney, on the other hand, played up federal priorities: corporate tax rates, the desire for regulators and government to ally with businesses, middle class tax cuts, and trade policies that could help U.S. businesses against competitors such as China.

Perry's foreign policy agenda has been hard to define and he didn't help himself at the debate. Asked what he would do if he received a “3 a.m. phone call” saying that Pakistan had lost control of its nuclear weapons to the Taliban, the Texas governor demurred. Responding would depend on building strong relationships with other countries, he said. “The point is, our allies need to understand clearly that we are their friends, we will be standing by with them,” he said. “Today we don't have those allies in that region that can assist us, if that situation that you talked about were to become a reality.”

Second-Tier Applause

Though most of the political attention is focused on the frontrunners Perry and Romney, the applause meter seemed to register the highest responses for Herman Cain and Ron Paul.

Cain even took a shot at Romney, to the crowd’s delight, when he compared their plans for overhauling the tax system.

“Unlike Governor Romney's plan, my plan throws out the old one. He's still hooked to the current tax code,” he said. “That dog won't hunt.”

Paul followed Cain, and received a question, sent via video from a couple in Indiana, right in the libertarian’s wheelhouse: Would he limit the size of the federal government?

“The responsibility of the president would be to veto every single bill that violates the 10th amendment. That would be the solution,” he said, succinctly. Moderator Chris Wallace, taken aback by the congressman's brevity, joked that he had much more time to answer the question.

The night’s final question came via YouTube, querying which of the other candidates would serve as running mate. Perry said he couldn’t just pick one. So, somewhat bizarrely, he picked two.

“If you could take Herman Cain and mate him up with Newt Gingrich, I think you would have a couple of really interesting guys to work with,” he said, drawing laughs.

Perry’s response drew a humorous retort from Romney.

“There are a couple of images I'm going to have a hard time getting out of my mind,” he said, laughing. Romney, though, offered no concrete response.

A few of the candidates did answer the question. Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson said he would choose his fellow libertarian-leaning candidate, Paul, while Santorum said he would pick Gingrich. Paul said he wouldn’t decide until he reached one of the top two positions in the national polls, and Gingrich said he didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings by not selecting them.

Johnson also got off perhaps the night’s best line, saying, “My next door neighbor’s two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than this present administration.”

A transcript of Rush Limbaugh’s show from earlier in the day showed the popular conservative talk-show host deploying a similar joke.

 

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